Dr. Steier, science won't die because there are reputable experts like you still putting information out to the public. You still give me hope as a scientist myself.
Thanks for a sad but hopeful response to what is turning into another dark day for human rights, democracy, education, prosperity, common sense, and public health. These are dark times. So hard to watch the best nation on earth descending to totalitarianism. The enemy did indeed come from within.
As an Englishman in the UK I feel so sad that all your work and achievement has been dismissed. There is a deep sentiment of distrust against the American Administration under Trump in the UK but not the majority of the American people. The UK is still free and thriving for anyone who wishes to relocate to an environment that will celebrate your work.
This is what happens when ideology and cronyism trump truth and science. We just welcomed our first great grandchild and I fear she will be getting the crappy end of this madness.
It's not an overreaction. What is happening is horrible at a historical level. At the moment, it is a dark day for a limited population of researchers, that the public knows little about. But soon, it will develop into an immense tragedy of long duration for the general population, that will be extremely difficult to recover from. A day of huge grief.
Science died when a Democratic administration, ignoring the science and relying instead on a public opinion polling company, declared Covid over, and started the dismantling of all public health protections. Science died when, under a Democratic administration, the CEO of Delta Airlines ordered the isolation period reduced to 5 days - again following the power, not the science. Let's be honest.
That was actually my point, so I wasn't clear enough. We need to see this as a bi-partisan slippery slope that has now turned into a full-blown disaster. The previous administration cleared by runway by giving power over critical public health policy to corporations like Delta and "ended the pandemic" based on nothing more than a focus group that indicated the public would accept the lie. The abandonment of science and public health has been bipartisan and now it is catastrophic.
I cannot tell you how absolutely furious I am with these stupid, right-wing, hole-in-their-head men following this Project 2025 playbook and dismantling our education, safety and training departments that assist, regulate and control our schools, hospitals, libraries and laboratories with resources, protocols and guidelines to have absolutely zero with no accountability and no responsibility whatsoever. As a health professional, we are still expected to provide services for all of our patients the same way regardless of whether or not they changed the playing field. It just became a lot harder, I hope they don’t expect anything more than ‘hope and a prayer’!
I just did. It was the idea, begun by James Hansen, that increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is causing unprecedented warming of Earth’s atmosphere and will end all life on Earth.
ok, and why do you feel that idea caused "the death of Science" ? Millions of ideas are born in science every day, and kept doing so even after that day - what is so dangerous about that particular one ?
Because that was the moment that science was wrested out of the purview of scientists and put into the hands of politicians. It was the dawn of America’s version of Trofim Lysenko.
Dr. Steier, science won't die because there are reputable experts like you still putting information out to the public. You still give me hope as a scientist myself.
Thanks for a sad but hopeful response to what is turning into another dark day for human rights, democracy, education, prosperity, common sense, and public health. These are dark times. So hard to watch the best nation on earth descending to totalitarianism. The enemy did indeed come from within.
As an Englishman in the UK I feel so sad that all your work and achievement has been dismissed. There is a deep sentiment of distrust against the American Administration under Trump in the UK but not the majority of the American people. The UK is still free and thriving for anyone who wishes to relocate to an environment that will celebrate your work.
So sad it has come to this you are not alone
All best wishes from the UK
Edwin
This is what happens when ideology and cronyism trump truth and science. We just welcomed our first great grandchild and I fear she will be getting the crappy end of this madness.
It's not an overreaction. What is happening is horrible at a historical level. At the moment, it is a dark day for a limited population of researchers, that the public knows little about. But soon, it will develop into an immense tragedy of long duration for the general population, that will be extremely difficult to recover from. A day of huge grief.
Science died when a Democratic administration, ignoring the science and relying instead on a public opinion polling company, declared Covid over, and started the dismantling of all public health protections. Science died when, under a Democratic administration, the CEO of Delta Airlines ordered the isolation period reduced to 5 days - again following the power, not the science. Let's be honest.
you seem too interested in the political side of things to appreciate the disaster that is unfolding.
That was actually my point, so I wasn't clear enough. We need to see this as a bi-partisan slippery slope that has now turned into a full-blown disaster. The previous administration cleared by runway by giving power over critical public health policy to corporations like Delta and "ended the pandemic" based on nothing more than a focus group that indicated the public would accept the lie. The abandonment of science and public health has been bipartisan and now it is catastrophic.
I cannot tell you how absolutely furious I am with these stupid, right-wing, hole-in-their-head men following this Project 2025 playbook and dismantling our education, safety and training departments that assist, regulate and control our schools, hospitals, libraries and laboratories with resources, protocols and guidelines to have absolutely zero with no accountability and no responsibility whatsoever. As a health professional, we are still expected to provide services for all of our patients the same way regardless of whether or not they changed the playing field. It just became a lot harder, I hope they don’t expect anything more than ‘hope and a prayer’!
Well done yet so sad.
My go to tune for times like these is Two Little Birds on My Doorstep (Bob Marley)
The day the science died was June 23, 1988 when James Hansen put on a performance before the US Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources.
It was the launch of the Global Warming hoax. Science literally died that day.
I don't know of any "Global Warming hoax" and what it did - could you enlighten us ?
I just did. It was the idea, begun by James Hansen, that increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is causing unprecedented warming of Earth’s atmosphere and will end all life on Earth.
ok, and why do you feel that idea caused "the death of Science" ? Millions of ideas are born in science every day, and kept doing so even after that day - what is so dangerous about that particular one ?
Because that was the moment that science was wrested out of the purview of scientists and put into the hands of politicians. It was the dawn of America’s version of Trofim Lysenko.
To me, what looks like the America's version of Trofim Lysenko is Kennedy
It’s as much about who is being hired as who is being fired. Experience out, science deniers in.