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Ken Barber's avatar

Thank you for continuing to publish scientific Reality in the face of ignorance and superstition. Substack is being inundated with a tidal wave of quackery and woo, and those of you telling the truth are too few.

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Leserly's avatar

Thank you Ken, just what I wanted to say.

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Deanna Kline's avatar

perhaps you missed the time frame that illnesses and deaths from all diseases - including measles- drastically dropped before vaccinations, when indoor plumbing, hygiene education, and improved sanitation were broadly implemented

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Leserly's avatar

Thank you. At a time when so many individuals are publishing here and by other easy means on the web about less than orthodox medicine, it is so important to have this information from those best qualified to tell us.

I have come across the 'let them catch measles' brigade and I admit sometimes I wondered if our immune system did build up resistance to more than measles by having the disease. But thinking of the numbers of children across the world for whom measles is a serious threat is enough for me to encourage parents to have their children immunised against it.

I am 75 and had measles before I was 1yr old. Apparently I was seriously ill. It may be why I suffered from ear infections throughout my childhood and still have frequent earache. I've had permanent very shrill loud tinnitus all my life. But that is nothing compared to what other children might suffer from measles. Have the jab! It's stupid not to!

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Edward Nirenberg's avatar

One thing that doesn’t get mentioned enough- chickenpox parties were a thing in the past, but measles parties were not. Maybe you had a handful of one-off “parties,” but the idea that people would willingly expose kids to measles is a complete fabrication.

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ReadingRainbow's avatar

What did you say here?

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Edward's avatar

how dare anyone question vaccination! how dare they! we are scientist! we have the proof you dummies! now take that jab! do not get sick! this jab too. and this one! we are science! bad to get rash and fever! don’t be a dummy! dummy!

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Steve Kierkegaard's avatar

Measles immune amnesia is a real thing, whether or not you understand the phenomenon. So is measles encephalitis. It's a highly contagious virus that kills a few people, and causes serious disease, and leaves survivors vulnerable to other pathogens for years. Those deaths and illnesses are mostly preventable by a safe and effective vaccine. Being snarky won't save vulnerable children.

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ReadingRainbow's avatar

The majority of measles cases in the US are caused by the vaccine. It’s a listed side effect on the vaccine insert.

Moreover there are a dozen other strains of measles that are not covered by the vaccine which are common all over the world and regularly imported by the millions of unvetted immigrants coming into the country.

The vaccine does nothing for them. Look into the concept of antigenic drift. Since the vaccine rollout more carcinogenic strains of HPV have become dominant, for instance.

Vaccination is quackery. All of the contagious diseases of the 19th century were basically eradicated by hygiene and nutrition before vaccines were even developed.

If you’re so confident in them then you shouldn’t mind a little scrutiny.

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Mick Skolnick, MD's avatar

When has scientific evidence ever changed the minds of anti-vaccine activists? They hold onto their emotion-driven beliefs with the same tenacity as devout religionists, making it impossible to have a rational discussion with them.

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Elisabeth Marnik, PhD's avatar

The goal isn’t to change their mind. There are many who still know the value of vaccines but the propaganda and lies about them can sow concern and doubt. Therefore it’s important to keep addressing.

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Mick Skolnick, MD's avatar

The anti-vaccine activists are the ones who are commenting here. I believe I have adequately addressed the concerns of those who are vaccine-hesitant. I see no need to keep repeating myself in this particular forum (Substack Notes). Please see my archived Post:

https://drmick.substack.com/p/vaccination

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Susan Johnson's avatar

Best source to follow for honest info! 

Dr Michael Osterholm 

CIDRAP

Center for infectious disease, research and policy 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/

*** Dr Michael Osterholm 

CIDRAP

Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy

New podcast:

https://youtu.be/30XobOUArj0?si=o0r_YJOTAvhKlWH7

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David Bate's avatar

Thank you. I grew up before MMR, so we just took measles for granted, and as a physician, I was not trained in the consequences of measles infection, because vaccines made such a difference. Our current trend of antiscientific stupidity will result in illness, misery, and death for millions of people, here and abroad. To say nothing of the hospitalization costs. But of course, it's not okay to call people "murderers" for espousing or forcing lethal policies.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Nobel Laureate Richet taught you a 100+ years ago to never inject alien proteins into humans.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1913/richet/lecture/

They teach you in medical school that injecting egg protein into guinea pigs causes the development of deadly allergy/asthma. You REGULARLY inject egg/chick proteins (flu/MMR shots) into humans. For "antiscientific stupidity", look in the mirror.

UC Irvine, School of Medicine, Immunology notes:

https://pdfcoffee.com/notes-of-immunology-pdf-free.html

pg. 157

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Leserly's avatar

You've raised the important point regarding what else is in the injection of the immunisation. I had serious reactions to the Polio injections in 1956 being among the first children in the UK to receive the Salk vaccination. It may have been the vaccine or an additive.

However, one of my friends has a deadly egg allergy. Your information above therefore is very relevant.

Regarding the Covid jab, I still feel scared when I think how they tried to keep the ingredients secret and when forced to declare them kept back the LNP contents. I am allergic to PEG. If I had not had professional awareness of PEG being in the lipid nano particles I would be dead now.

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Deanna Kline's avatar

Glad you had that knowledge. Does anyone remember the thousands who didn’t? Who were not even screened for it or given informed consent.

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Steve Kierkegaard's avatar

There never was any secrecy regarding the ingredients of the mRNA Covid vaccines in the USA. I remember looking them up on the CDC website. There is no egg or thimerosal in them. A tiny fraction of the vaccinated population had allergic reactions to them. The virus was a greater risk to people's health. Over a million people died in the United States from Covid, most before the vaccine was available.

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Baya Lazz's avatar

The PCR is not a valid diagnostic tool. What treatments were given to people labelled this way?

https://odysee.com/@Truth_Comes_to_Light:6/pcrtest:4

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Julia Morrell's avatar

Thank you so much for this article. Very informative. I must learn not to read the comments

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Cassandra Elkin's avatar

Thank you for this important information. People need to understand that research is not just making up data or skewing it the way you want to, and that researching the research is not done by searching for the results you want, but thankfully there are folks like you out there pushing the truth.

I must admit, however, that I found some of this a little frightening because I had a particular susceptibility to measles as a kid despite being vaccinated. It's a sort of pointless fear, as I am now in my late 50s and still kicking, but I shudder to think how things might have gone differently.

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Harri Ahonen's avatar

This whole blog is so corrupt!

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Kelley Olsen's avatar

Measles is cyclical and can never be 100% eradicated especially with a live virus vaccine

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Kelley Olsen's avatar

What say you of the Disney Land outbreak in California that occurred 31% of those afflicted were vaccinated. This challenges your suggestion that MMR is 97% effective. What happened in this case? Vaccine failure? Waning vaccine efficacy? What is the timeframe of the 97% efficacy that you quote? And when was the last time most adults had MMR, do they have immunity into adulthood?

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Kelley Olsen's avatar

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19255001/ re: wild measles and allergies

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Kelley Olsen's avatar

https://www.fda.gov/media/75191/download

Adverse reaction section of the MMR insert. Unfortunately, since a properly powered, long term, true saline placebo randomized controlled trial has never been done before licensure and introduction to the market, we do not have the full safety profile of MMR. #dothesafetystudies

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Steve Kierkegaard's avatar

You are just lying about there not being properly controlled studies of MMR, or you don't understand. FYI saline is not usually an appropriate control for discovering the adverse effects of the active ingredients (in this case the live attenuated viruses of MMR). You ought to know MMR does not have preservatives like thimerosol, because such ingredients would inactivate the vaccine strains in the solution.

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